Richard Armitage goodness in my four fav characters

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  1. All great characters, but I still have a soft spot for John Thornton. After all, he’s the one who got my whole addiction started!!! Just watched Episode 5 of S9 of Spooks. It was a good episode, almost normal because there was only a couple of minutes of traitor John. It was kind of hero Lucas’ s last hurrah. I just want to scream when I remember what stupid things are about to come next. But, as always, it’s such a pleasure to watch he powerhouse acting of RA!!

    • I know most people discovered Richard through Thornton and he is their favorite. I think most everybody does love Thornton–difficult not to–but I chose Guy, Porter, Lucas and Harry as my anchor characters for SF and they have an extra-special place in my heart. And I have also written fanfic about the four of them.

  2. Ooh, my fav four as well, with Thornton coming in a very close fifth!
    Laurie, it’s interesting to hear how you are going with each episode of S9. I haven’t got as far as e5 since I first saw it on TV a year ago, so I don’t remember what it’s about, but if it only has a couple of Bateman minutes I may be able to handle seeing it again. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
    In the meantime, I’m absolutely loving watching S7 Lucas again.

    • I have been doing a lot of fanart with Lucas from S7 today. He was so ethereally beautiful in S7–those fine bones so deliniated, the haunted look in those blue eyes, the sweetness of his smiles and how they disarmed you . . .

  3. I still get a sick feeling in my stomach when I see the scene where Vaughn confronts him on the Embankment steps – even stills of it! I could hardly believe what I was hearing the first time I watched and he asked Lucas what it had been like being Lucas North!! I think I stopped breathing! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Only Richard’s incredible acting kept me watching, but I still have a hard time taking out the DVD’s of that Series to watch it again.

  4. I tried to rewatch series 9 but stopped after episode 4. I simply can’t go on, I love Lucas too much to be able to watch him destroying himself (or being destroyed by the &$&$”ยง writers. A pity, because he was simply beautiful in this series. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • Nietzsche, I’ve found e3 is my limit, the first dvd, then I literally can’t bring myself to put the second one in the player. As I said above, I’m loving S7 at the moment, I sit here just soaking up the sight of beautiful Lucas.

      • I am still in total DeNial about series 9 and intend to stay there for a very long time.

        “Lucas North … the spy who came in from the cold” … And never never EVER went to bl**dy Dakar!

    • Nietzsche, you know how I feel. I honestly have no desire to go back and watch it all again. Yes, it was a great performance, but it also made me physically ill and emotionally torn up. It’s a damned shame, that is what it is. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  5. Well, I cry whenever I see the part where Vaughan confronts Lucas. It takes me a while to get through these episodes. I watch 10, 15 minutes, then go do something else. It’s almost like I’ve got to watch it again! As if Richard struggled to act this out, so I’ve got to struggle to watch him go through it! I’m remembering the interview with the actress who played Ruth when she talks about how impressed she was watching him struggle to come to terms with the 180 degree turn his character takes. After I read that, months ago, I was determined to make it through again.

    • Laurie, I have thought about how much of a struggle it was for Richard making these episodes, discarding everything that Lucas had been, filming out of sequence, trying to create two separate characters, and it makes me teary. Because I’ve been torn ever since. I hated seeing Lucas in his downward spiral, it still breaks my heart, yet at the same time, I believe Richard’s powerhouse performance is worthy of being seen time and again, and I’m denying myself that. The fact that Richard brings about such strong emotions in me is testament to his talent.

      • I have never been as affected by fictional characters on screen as I have by Richard’s characters. Guy–Lucas–Porter–Thornton–John Standring–and more–the trials and tribulations these characters experience, their hopes and dreams and desires, the joy and the pain, it all touches me very deeply. I actually found myself falling into a sort of depression over the whole Lucas debacle. And that’s a big part of why I just can’t watch those last five or six eps of that series.

        I was truly impressed by Richard managing to juggle essentially playing two different roles in the same show and as you said, shooting out of sequence, so that he had to remember if he was Lucas or John and just where in that evolution he was . . . I was torn up about Guy, but I more or less knew that was coming. I knew as the baddie in this family friendly series that he would ultimately have to pay for it. I am just so glad he was allowed to be redeemed in the end. That was my solace, that he died proud and free.

        Lucas, however, we saw as a good guy–a flawed and damaged one, yes, but essentially a hero. And then that was completely dismantled before our eyes and he turned out to be a completely different person altogether. And it was all done in such a soap operaish manner.

  6. He does it!!! If it had been another actor would I be blubbering like a baby? Probably not! He just makes us care. He brings these characters to life! It’s so hard for me to understand why he’s not won awards yet!

    • How true Laurie C! He does indeed make us care and that is why S9 is SO hard to watch. But like Mezz says, the fact that he was able to do what he did, with such a script, not to mention what it must have cost him emotionally, made me feel I had to honour his undeniable talents and abilities and watch it to the bitter end. The fact that he looked so very beautiful didn’t help!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  7. These four characters are in my top 5 for definite. But top spot for me still goes to my beloved shy farmer Sweetie John. I love him, love him, love him!

    As for Spooks series 9, I can’t get past episode 3 either. I will never understand why, if ‘Lucas’ was the man TPTB wanted us to think he was, he didn’t just kill Vaughn and get rid of the suitcase (unopened) the minute he recognised him? That IMHO would have made sense. Unlike the c**p TPTB wrote next.

    • I know how much you love Sweetie John, Vicki. ๐Ÿ˜€ I’m with you, if Lucas really was such a morally fluid creature, he should have just killed off the despicable Vaughn and gone on with his life.

  8. Well, I have a top 6, which icludes the four guys in the post, plus the 2 other Johns, John T. and sweetie John S.! The order changes constantly depending on what show I’m watching! ๐Ÿ™‚ There is no firm #1 for me. ๐Ÿ™‚

  9. I watched Spooks S9 with horrified disbelief at what the so-called writers were perpetrating. I finally reconciled it in my mind as RA’s audition tape for the Richard III project. My gawd, the man has range and more power to spare!! But I love Lucas North and you know from my fanfic and other comments that I reject the premises of S9 utterly. For me, Lucas North is SND, and always will be.

    • Leigh, would you mind telling me what you username is on dreamerfiction? I couldn’t find you as Leigh…:)

            • I’m reading The Dancer and it’s awesome! What a great idea. Unfortunately I don’t dance myself but I love watching ballroom dancing (my favourite dance is the paso doble). ๐Ÿ™‚ The thought of Luscious Lucas doing all those Spanish dances is almost too much to bear! HOTTT!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

              • It was also the thought of Lucas in those tight black costume trousers that was HOT!! Mention of Richard wearing said trousers over at serv’s was what led angie to recommend Leigh’s story.
                I love watching ballroom dancing too Judit. There’s a gorgeous, quaint Australian 1992 movie called Strictly Ballroom which has IIRC the paso doble as the featured dance in the climax. It’s an early one by Baz Luhrman who is currently directing The Great Gatsby. If you search it in YT there’s numerous vids on it.

              • Yes, I thought Leigh’s story worked beautifully for our Lucas and imagining him in that outfit. Yummmo. I love Strictly Ballroom, BTW. It’s one I really should get on DVD. Tina Sparkles just popped into my head. ๐Ÿ˜‰

              • I’m glad you like Strictly Ballroom, angie, it’s one of my all time favourites, and for me the pick of Luhrman’s work. I wasn’t fussed about his Romeo & Juliet or Australia.

              • I actually like Moulin Rouge a lot and have it on DVD. It seems to be one of those films you either love or hate. Australia I wasn’t too keen on at all. Nicole’s character I found irritating as I recall. There are several films she made while still heavily using the Botox and I find her voice and mannerisms in some of those a bit wierd, as if she is trying to compensate for the frozen face. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I thought she was lovely before she started tinkering around with her face–the nose, smile, Botox, etc.

              • Oh Mezz, I LOOOOOVE Strictly Ballroom!!! Have seen it numerous times! In the late 90s I had an enormous crush on Australian tennis player Pat Rafter. I met some fellow Hungarian fans on an Australian message board (funny, eh) and we used to get together and watched a lot Austrialian movies because we were crazy about the Aussie accent! My favourites were Strictly Ballroom, Paperback Hero (Hugh Jackman is soooo sweet in it!) and of course Priscilla, Queen of the Desert! ๐Ÿ™‚

              • Judit, like Hugh Jackman, Pat Rafter appears to be a modest, grounded person, and he was a wonderful tennis player. It’s great to know that our movies are seen so widely. I enjoyed Paperback Hero and Priscilla too. Two period dramas worth watching (if you haven’t already) are Picnic at Hanging Rock and My Brilliant Career.

              • I’ve never seen Paperback Hero. But I enjoyed Priscilla and both Picnic at Hanging Rock and My Brilliant Career (with the brilliant Judy Davis). Has anyone seen Angel at my Table? It’s the real-life story of a New Zealand writer and one of my favorites.

              • Yes, Mezz, Pat is a lovely, lovely guy. Always a gentleman, on and off the court. Always generous with fans. No oversized ego. Great sense of humour. And he’s very easy on the eyes too! ๐Ÿ˜‰ I went to London to be an au-pair partly because I wanted to go and see Pat play at Wimbledon. And my dream came true – in 1999 &2000. ๐Ÿ™‚ Both times he made it to the final. ๐Ÿ™‚
                “Picnic at Hanging Rock” is a very interesting film but it left me feeling rather frustrated. I guess I’m not used to mysteries that remain unsolved, but that’s just the nature of the beast as I think it was based on a true story. ๐Ÿ™‚ Haven’t seen “My Brilliant Career”, I’ll check it out, thanks for the tip! ๐Ÿ™‚ I have a soft spot for Aussies and their films and their accent! ๐Ÿ™‚

              • Actually, Judit, I remember doing some research when watching Picnic and contrary to popular belief it was actually based on a novel, and not an actual event. Here in the US many audience members were frustrated because the unsolved nature of the mystery, so it wasn’t just YOU. ๐Ÿ˜‰
                Sam Neill is also in My Brilliant Career and he’s a fav of mine.

              • Those 2 years in London were the happiest years of my life! I remember my employers were making fun of me for queueing for 6 hours to get in but you know what? Even queueing was FUN! ๐Ÿ™‚

              • Yes, especially when it’s not raining…;) Thank you for the info on Hanging Rock, I don’t know why I was so convinced it was based on a real life event? Obviously I didn’t do any research! ๐Ÿ™‚ Re Sam Neill, I recently watched a film called “Dean Spanley”. Sam Neill plays the title role, and is absolutely BRILLIANT in it! Have you seen it? It’s a quirky but heartwarming tale.

              • Apparently a lot of people did think it as based on a real-life event, so you had plenty of company. You know, I think I have seen Dean Spanley showing on one of the premium satellite channels here, I will have to keep a lookout for it. I tend to like quirky. ๐Ÿ˜€

              • Sam is currently appearing in “Alcatraz”.
                Thanks for the recommendation of “Dean Spanly” Judit, I’ll keep a look out for it. ๐Ÿ™‚

              • Well, if you like dogs, Sam Neill, Peter O’Toole and Jeremy Northam there’s a good chance you’ll like Dean Spanley. ๐Ÿ™‚ It certainly made me cry (good tears)! The story has a Hungarian connection too.

    • I got sicker and sicker with each new ep of S9. I was so disturbed and disgusted by what they were doing with that wonderful character. Lucas is SND, and Ros is, too (as those who have read Sloth Fiction know). ๐Ÿ˜‰

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